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skunkstripe
01-19-2008, 12:16 PM
Yet another tragedy! The family Jack Russell Terrier killed a sleeping baby boy while the poor mother was bathing her other child. But what is disturbing about how the article is written is how the reporters bring up the fact that the family's other dog happens to be a "Pit Bull." As if they are wondering why the Jack Russell was the one to attack?

It’s not clear where the child was when he was attacked, but police were told the boy's mother was in another room when he was attacked.
The Mozer family also owns a pitbull.
From the looks of it, the pitbull was dangerous. Signs warn neighbors of what could happen, but it happened to the Mozer's own baby boy, and the culprit was the Jack Russell Terrier. It's what makes this tragedy so hard to come to terms with.

http://www.wtvq.com/midatlantic/tvq/home.apx.-content-articles-TVQ-2008-01-19-0001.html
http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080119/NEWS01/80119002

melissa2007
01-19-2008, 12:40 PM
That is terribly sad, My heart goes out to that family, it would be devastating to loose a child that way or to loose a child at all for that matter.
I just wounder would the child not have cried from being bitten, where was the child that the parents could not hear the screams.
This just shows you cannot trust dogs around a helpless infant.
ANd I suspect the signs where for the Jack Russell and not the pit bull

Python
01-19-2008, 12:52 PM
I agree with you Melissa2007. I also wondered why the child was left alone with the dogs. Where is commonsense these days?

I also don't like the way the article was written. Seems the reporter was gobsmacked that a small dog could do this.

JRTs are one breed of dog I wouldn't have in a lucky bag if it was free.

Now, no offence intended to the many owners of JRTs who have well-behaved dogs but I've seen how quickly JRTs can turn and how aggressive they can be.

Over here in the UK a few years back, two JRTs killed a baby. I can't remember the full circumstances but it would seem the JRTs got to the baby and, well, ate the baby. Where the adults were (grandparents I think) I don't know, perhaps they were talking to a neighbour or nipped to the shops but when they came back - well you can imagine the rest.

I bet there won't be too much made of this incident as the media only seem to like reporting such horror stories if it involves big dogs. Small dogs can't possibly do such things!!!! (Sarcasm).

melissa2007
01-19-2008, 01:07 PM
I agree with you Melissa2007. I also wondered why the child was left alone with the dogs. Where is commonsense these days?

I also don't like the way the article was written. Seems the reporter was gobsmacked that a small dog could do this.

JRTs are one breed of dog I wouldn't have in a lucky bag if it was free.

Now, no offence intended to the many owners of JRTs who have well-behaved dogs but I've seen how quickly JRTs can turn and how aggressive they can be.

Over here in the UK a few years back, two JRTs killed a baby. I can't remember the full circumstances but it would seem the JRTs got to the baby and, well, ate the baby. Where the adults were (grandparents I think) I don't know, perhaps they were talking to a neighbour or nipped to the shops but when they came back - well you can imagine the rest.

I bet there won't be too much made of this incident as the media only seem to like reporting such horror stories if it involves big dogs. Small dogs can't possibly do such things!!!! (Sarcasm).
Sad thing is I agree with you, I have yet to see a well behaved JRT.
Most I have seen are crazy unbehaved little things,as a kid the first JRT I met used to chase us kids on our block and would give you a nip if it got the chance.
I hope I can one day see one that is well behaved but truthfully I would never own one myself

Christine283
01-19-2008, 01:21 PM
From the looks of it?!?!? the pit bull was dangerous. Apparently it was the freaking JRT that was dangerous.

This is what I absolutely HATE about journalism today. Since when does the reporter's opinion get to be thrown into an article that is supposed to be about facts?!

melissa2007
01-19-2008, 01:25 PM
Truth is I guess to many people Pitt Bulls look vicous just because they are Pit Bulls, very sad when the story focused on the Pitbull when the JRT killed the child.
whats this world coming to

applesmom
01-19-2008, 01:36 PM
This is the third story in recent months of a dog killing an infant and there's got to be a lot more to the story than the media reports.:rolleyes:

If it wasn't killed by the first bite, that baby would be screaming it's lungs out and it would be an entirely different sound than that of a hungry, wet or unhappy baby. Where was the mother?

In addition there had to be warning signs that the dog didn't accept the baby and the dog should never have been allowed to be alone with him.

Either the mother totally lacked common sense or lived in a state of constant denial!

There's nothing that can be done for that helpless infant now; but I hope that anyone that reads that tragic story will become more aware and alert to danger signals and warning signs regarding children and dogs.

melissa2007
01-19-2008, 01:43 PM
well in the picture you see all the signs warning others to stay away,perhaps instead of worrying so much about that they should have been more focused on protecting there own children, for all we know the mother could have heard th child crying and ignored it, I guess we will have to wait to see if the story become clearer

skunkstripe
01-19-2008, 02:27 PM
We'll probably never know. I mean, I feel terrible for the mother. No, you shouldn;t leave your dog alone with your small child, but losing your baby is a horrible price to pay to learn that. I wouldn't be surprised if she was so completely distraught that she herself doesn't remember what exactly happened.

applesmom
01-19-2008, 02:50 PM
We'll probably never know. I mean, I feel terrible for the mother. No, you shouldn;t leave your dog alone with your small child, but losing your baby is a horrible price to pay to learn that. I wouldn't be surprised if she was so completely distraught that she herself doesn't remember what exactly happened.

I feel terrible for the mother too. Neither she nor the baby deserved this! Every day children are killed or maimed by horrible accidents that could have been prevented with just a little foresight. It's impossible for a parent to think ahead to prevent every concievable accident that might befall their children. But if they've been warned and the accident still happens that compounds the tragedy.:(

Whether this was the case or not we'll probably never know! We can move on, but the grief stricken mother has to live with this for the rest of her life!

Newt
01-19-2008, 02:53 PM
My Parsons are well behaved but under no circumstances would i leave any dog with a child how stupid is this. Doesnt matter what size. Terriers are used for hunting, ill say can be used,and can be very vicious but so can any dog in the right circumstances i.e. not trained and socialised etc only difference is one bite from a rottie may do the same damage as 3 or 4 from a smaller dog

luv_my_brownie
01-19-2008, 04:01 PM
Aw! I feel sorry for the mom that her baby died, but I agree with Melissa, why would you leave a dog and a baby in the same room alone and think the pit bull could've killed it. And I never knew that JRT are vicious dogs that could kill people. I always thought they they were........ not vicious.

Dusty
01-19-2008, 04:56 PM
Poor baby.. what a dreadful thing to happen... but at least it wasn't a big dog this time. I wonder if we will now get all Jack Russelss on the dangerous dog list!! I think it is the owners most of the time at fault..if the dogs were socalised better from pups etc., and of c ourse NEVER left alone with children no matter how safe you think they are.

Monkey
01-19-2008, 05:51 PM
YAY!!! I remembered the password..

I just got so furious of the whole according to the sign thing.. how the humm dont you know it was the Jack russel they were refering to, not to mention I will post signs like that despite my dogs liking people. Besides ALL Dogs can be dangerous when someone enteres their territory..

Im SO furious at the papers it aint even funny...

and about the mother that is sad, besides several bite marks.. infant.. Dogs shake their "prey", maybe it bnottom line was shaken baby syndrome that killed it I mean with first bite and all as apples mentioned. I dont know we can just agree on it being horrible and papers not making it much better...

*mutters*

Python
01-19-2008, 07:32 PM
Sad thing is I agree with you, I have yet to see a well behaved JRT.
Most I have seen are crazy unbehaved little things,as a kid the first JRT I met used to chase us kids on our block and would give you a nip if it got the chance.
I hope I can one day see one that is well behaved but truthfully I would never own one myself

I've only seen one JRT that was well behaved and that was my friend's dog (sadly the little dog had to be PTS just over a year ago as she had cancer). She was a sweet little thing, there wasn't one aggressive bone in her. My friend has another dog now. It is a mongrel with a fair bit of JRT in it somewhere along the lines. It is an ill-mannered, ill-disciplined brat of a dog. My friend was on the phone the other night and was saying her dog is getting out of control and getting more and more difficult to handle. I hope to be going up to visit her in a few weeks. Her dog will do what she's told by me!!! I don't let my GSD walk over me and I won't let a JRT do that either. My friend definitely needs training LOL.

The worst dog in our street is a JRT cross (looks like a JRT but slightly taller). He'll go for anything. Adult, child, cat - anything he meets and he barks all bl**dy day:mad: Doesn't help that his owners prefer sitting in drinking instead of training and exercising their dog.

In most cases, it is the owners at fault for not training their dogs properly in the first place - and not exercising common sense. The vast majority of dogs are great with kids. Unfortunately, we only ever hear the bad side, never the good.