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Doberman's
08-08-2006, 11:50 PM
The history of the Doberman has been documented by many very reliable authors, who have sometimes spent a lifetime with this one breed of dog. It is highly recommended that anyone interested in including one of these magnificent animals in their family, to purchase and read at least one book (preferably more) that is written by these authors. It is also important that the potential new owner belong to a local Doberman club; get to know the people who have experience in this breed, ask questions concerning training, nutrition, exercise, and temperament of the breed. The Doberman is a noble-looking, elegant, powerful, and highly intelligent animal. The feelings between a Doberman and its owner are reciprocal, the love and devotion that one has for the other is a mutual giving and receiving. That is one of the amazing benefits of ownership of this breed of dog.

The Doberman had its beginnings in the city of Apolda, located in the state of Thuringia, Germany. Louis Dobermann was reputed to be a tax collector in this area, and was also responsible for keeping the strays in the local dog pound. Herr Dobermann carried money on his person, and wanted a dog for self protection. His ultimate aim was to possess a dog that was of average build, so that it could be intimidating to intruders or robbers. A dog with a short, smooth coat would be easy to care for, with a minimum of grooming. The dog would also have to have great stamina, be intelligent, and display alertness, and even aggression. So when he decided to use different breeds to develop this special guard dog, Herr Dobermann had a very specific end in mind. His choices were not slap hazard, he picked and chose the dogs very carefully. This is one of the reasons why the Doberman Pinscher is referred to as "a man-made dog". Unfortunately, he did not keep any written records. However, some very good conjectures can be drawn from the knowledge we have of the anatomy and temperament of the Doberman, and the knowledge of the type of dogs that were indigenous to that area and time.

The German Pinscher was probably the foundation breed that Herr Dobermann used to build his new strain of dog. This type of dog was described as being rather non-descript in looks, but the reputation of temperament that this dog had was one of alertness and aggressiveness.

The Rottweiler was used in the development of the breed due to its massiveness and intelligence. This very solid dog also possessed great stamina, and had excellent tracking ability. Sometimes the Rottweiler strain can be seen in a Doberman with a "wavy" coat.

The Manchester Terrier contributed the black-and-tan coloration, and the short, shiny coat. The Doberman inherited some of the elegant looks, the refinement and line of this breed of dog.

The Beauceron contributed size and color to the Dobermann bloodline. The Beauceron was a solidly built dog, very alert, and was known to be intelligent as well.

Louis Dobermann passed away in the late 1800's. He left his bloodline in the keeping, and care, of Otto Goeller. It is speculated that it was Otto Goeller that added the Greyhound, possibly black in color, to the bloodline. This would account for the additional height, stamina, and the speed of the Doberman.

In 1899, the National Dobermann Pinscher Club was organized in Germany. One year later, Otto Goeller, and other fanciers, drew up a standard for their breed. The German Kennel Club immediately gave official recognition of the newest breed.


The first Doberman's to enter the U.S. did so around 1908. In 1921, the Dobermann Pinscher Club of America was organized, and one year later, the standard that was written in Germany, was adopted as the standard here in the U.S. The next 15 years were very important years in the Doberman's history. World War I had severely depleted the number of Dobies, due to the near, and actual, starvation of many of the people of Europe. The luxury of having Dobermans as a family pet was too much for some, many puppies, as well as adults, had to be put to death. The military, the police, certain organizations, and the very wealthy were able to possess these dogs. So there was a need to be filled by the continued breeding of the Doberman. But now the emphasis was on the best bred dog. After 1921, an American market opened up for these German bred dogs, and most of the Siegers and Siegerins, and virtually every German sire of reputation, sooner or later reached American shores, if not the dogs themselves, then their get did. World War II was another close disaster for the Doberman. If not for the fact that Americans had purchased so many Dobies, it is likely the breed would have come close to extinction. The American breeder had, from 1921 until around 1937, invited German judges to our American Shows, and had asked for, and followed, their advice on how to breed the Dobie, traits to look for, and to be mindful of the temperament desired. In Great Britain, the Doberman was rarely seen, not becoming known by the public until around 1947.

It is important that the public understand that in the early years of the Doberman Pincsher the breed was valued most for its aggressiveness. It had a use at that time, it was a working dog, used in guard work, military policing, and with the police. Today, the responsible breeder is more aware than ever before of the importance of temperament. The responsible breeder will not knowingly sell an aggressive tempered dog into a family situation. The aggressive types must be trained, and possessed, by a dominant (not abusive) owner, who has a job for the Dobie to do. A new owner to the Doberman breed should have the common sense to research and get to know the breed very well before buying. He, or she, should not be getting the Dobie for the purpose of scaring his neighbors, or their dogs. If that is the case, shame on you. You possess an animal that can become dangerous in the wrong hands, yours. Just like a mishandled weapon, it's not the gun that kills, it is the mentality behind it.

Borderdawn
08-09-2006, 04:56 AM
I co-own a Dobermann and have owned 2, sadly with their health issues they rarely see "old bones" and its a great shame. Here in the UK breeders and Vets are trying to do something about it. Enjoyed your article.
Dawn.

Doberman's
08-09-2006, 07:58 AM
My last Dobe lived to be 12yrs old.

Dobermans lifespan ranges from 10-12 on average although I do know that they can die earlier.

My dogs are all tested to be free of things such as vWD and Cardiomyopathy ( which killed my last Dobe ). Dobermans are no more prone to disease then any other breed or cross/mixed breed, at least not here in North America. I have know a few that have lived to be 15 yrs old and looked good too. :)

Borderdawn
08-09-2006, 08:48 AM
Thing is 10yrs is nothing to how they used to be. How often do you test for DCM? We are currently running a scanning scheme here for DCM, and running drug trials to try to help dogs that are suffering. I lost one to DCM and one to "Wobblers" The DCM dog was only 5yrs, he was also VWD affected and was hypothyroid. Many vets think that hypoT and VWD are linked, I do too.

DNA testing for VWD is the best way, the Animal health trust I believe are still using the "Elisa" blood tests, these can be unreliable, but still here the DNA samples have to be sent to the States, I think more should be done for these tests to be readily available here.
Dawn.

mysterydog1
08-09-2006, 10:58 AM
at the stola site, there is a saluki dobe cross looking to be adopted. she is so sweet! but with crosses there aren't as many health problems as purebreds. dobes are cool, but i don't think i'd even own one. i know nothing about them.

Zoes_mama
08-10-2006, 09:34 PM
I've always loved Dobes.
I went to Toronto yesterday for a Gnarls Barkley concert, and while waiting for the concert to start, me and my friend were walking around TO. We saw an assortment of dogs. A "teacup" chihuahua, a Boston terrier, a black standard poodle, a chow mix, a lab mix, aaaaaaand a doberman :D
That was my first time meeting a dobe in person and it was awesome. I can't even describe how beautiful this girl was. So regal and well-behaved. I wanted her.

mysterydog1
08-11-2006, 03:05 PM
aw, i've never met one. i need to meet som salukis though.

retriever crazy
08-11-2006, 03:08 PM
Wow! great info
thanks :cool:

westie mamma
08-16-2006, 10:36 PM
I have had the pleasure of spend ten years with dobes. My red male, Joe died aged 10 thanks to a bait, if not for this I am sure he would have soldiered on for years. My black female, Ruby remains and although plagued by tumors in various spots now ( she is 9) she still races along and makes a 3 kilometer walk into a five k run each day, eats like a horse and has a coat that shines beautifully. She tolerates the small dogs who have invaded her territory and still adores her family and loves to be the alarm clock in the morning. I dread to think of life without her

Doberroo
01-29-2007, 06:54 PM
My fathers Dobby lasted 14 years. Hoping Coda lives just as long

sheplovr
01-29-2007, 08:59 PM
Very interested article and great advice to offer new people. I do the same to my customers to buy a good shepherd book and read or read via the net, understand the breed before owning. Shepherds look very daring and scarey but are just lovable beauties. Mine are anyhow as they were raised properly. That is so important how one raises a Dobe, Rotty, Shepherd, if done properly no reason for dominance, biting, fighting, etc. They need to learn respect and look up for good guidance. Nice reading Sandy.:cheers:

brunosmom
01-29-2007, 10:10 PM
If only I could of read that before taking the "Doberman Test" I might of gotten them all correct.....lol....good info!!!!

DyllyDobe
01-30-2007, 07:34 AM
Hi All, :)

I learnt about this disease after doing the dobe test.....

http://www.dogstuff.info/spondylolithesis_swedlow.html

My beautiful Dyl has very long legs, and I've never known a Dobe that can bend his neck so far back that it nearly touches his back!!! I watch his walk with such wonder at his sideways crabbing and the round actions of his backlegs.....

awwww, I love him sooooooo much xxxx

Doberman's
02-04-2007, 11:18 PM
The Doberman is a medium size, working breed that possesses an extreme degree of intelligence and trainability. He is a beautiful, intelligent and loyal family member. He is known for his keen alertness and watchfulness and devotion to his family. He has gone through a long transformation over the last one hundred plus years to emerge as one of the truly versatile working breeds.

He is a dog that stands approximately 26 to 28 inches at the "wither" (highest point on the topline) for males, and he weighs approximately 75 to 90 pounds. The females are smaller, standing about 24 to 26 inches at the wither, and weighing about 55 to 70 pounds. The "ideal" height for males is 27 1/2 in. and for the females it is 25 1/2 in.. The over all appearance is a "medium sized, square bodied dog---that is compactly built, muscular and powerful---for great endurance and speed---elegant in appearance, of proud carriage, and reflecting great nobility and temperament. Energetic, watchful, determined, alert, fearless, loyal and obedient. " These quotes are directly from the Official Doberman Standard approved by the Doberman Pinscher Club of Canada and the Canadian Kennel Club. The "Official Standard" is the total description of the breed---from the tip of the Doberman's nose to the carriage of his tail. It describes how the "perfect" Doberman should look and act. It is this Standard that the Doberman is judged on when it is entered in a Dog Show in a Conformation Class. This judging that takes place at the Dog Shows, determines which Dobermans come the closest to being " the perfect or ideal" specimens. The Doberman Standard can be found on the DPCC website in it's entirety.

The Doberman comes in four recognized colours that are acceptable within the Standard. These are 1) Black and Rust 2) Red and Rust 3) Blue and Rust and 4) Fawn (Isabella) and Rust. All four of these colours are acceptable in the CKC Standard and can be shown in the Conformation Ring, which judges the future breeding stock for Championship points and the Championship Title.

The "Albino" Doberman is NOT a colour, but an Albinoid form that is NOT eligible to be shown for Championship points or a Champion Title. No Albino can ever achieve this degree of "perfection" as he Albino is considered a "Deleterious Genetic Mutation" and should not be bred under any circumstances. The Albino trait carries many undesirable afflictions that seriously affect the physical and mental health of the Doberman. It is the DPCC's position that the Albino should not be bred or promoted and should be given "Limited Registration" status, which would prevent the breeding and registration of all Albinos.

The Doberman lives approximately 9.6 years on average, with the females usually living a bit longer than the males. Unfortunately, a 10 year old Doberman, for the most part, is considered fairly old. The larger and giant breeds have even shorter life spans, so we are fortunate that we have the Doberman for nearly ten years on average. The Doberman does have some health concerns that are prevalent in the reed. There is incidence of Hypothyroidism, Cardiomyopathy, Cancer, CVI (Cervical Vertebral Instability), vWD (Von Wildebrand's Disease), CAH (Canine Active Hepatitis) and other lesser conditions. This is not to say that every Doberman will be afflicted by these. It is to say that these are the prevailing conditions that cause disease in the Doberman. Many are manageable and others are not. Each Breed has health and medical conditions that make each susceptible to certain diseases. Our intention is to make you aware of the most common. You will find these explained further, in another article on this site.

The Doberman temperament has taken a transformation, also. In the very early days of the breed, the temperament was very sharp and on the verge of being vicious. This apparently was something that Louis Doberman desired in his guard dog. Times were different and the robbers and thieves were common, and a "tough, sharp dog" helped deter that thought of victimizing by criminals. Through the years, and into modern times, the temperament has been tempered and mellowed, so that today we have a Doberman that is not so "quick on the trigger" as in yester year. They remain alert, watchful and ready to protect, but gone are the days of the Doberman going through the "window" after a passer-by, or the Doberman being unapproachable by friends and acquaintances. The "Reputable, Concerned and Careful" breeders of today pay very close attention to making sure these desirable traits are of top priority in careful breeding programs.

The Doberman is a very versatile Breed. Dobermans are wonderful family members, but must be socialized, disciplined properly and kindly, trained to be good citizens, obedience trained, and properly cared for to ensure good health and a long life. Dobermans are fun and energetic dogs that can play catch, Frisbee or go jogging with you. You can do Obedience competition, Agility competition, and other sport venues that require an active breed. Dobermans can do Search and Rescue, and other activities that require a good "sense of smell". Dobermans can be found doing just about any activity that any other medium size breed does.

Dobermans are a short coated breed which means that there is NO CHOICE as to where he will stay. The Doberman is a HOUSE dog and cannot survive being in the cold or heat. Because his ears are erect and very thin, it is important to make sure he is not outside for long periods of time where he could get "frost bite" on the tips, or worse. If you live in a very cold climate part of the year, this is something to consider and be prepared for. Also, the heat is a problem, as he has very short and thin coat around the ears and muzzle, which can sunburn and blister. These are important considerations to remember.

The Doberman is a very active, lively and energetic breed. They are on the go and love to be where the "action" is at all times. They need to be around their family constantly. If your lifestyle is such that you cannot spend long periods of time with this breed, or you work long hours on end, this will not work with a Doberman. They are highly intelligent and require things to do and a family to interact with---being loose in a house all day, or locked in a dog kennel all day will only lead to bad habits and destructive tendencies. Exercise and a FENCED yard large enough for the Doberman to move about and run is a necessity---for the safety of the dog, to prevent injury from cars and also to allow for free exercise---not only on a leash.

You will find more specific information about many of the topics we have touched on throughout this website. Please read everything you can about the Doberman before you decide if this is the breed for you and your family. The Doberman is a big responsibility---more so than many other breeds, because they are a dog bred for guard and personal protection. This means they are innately possessing all of the traits of a guard dog---big, strong & powerful; large jaws and teeth; guarding instinct; alert and ready to react and evoke fear in most people. They are considered dangerous by many Insurance Companies and many cities and towns will not allow ownership of a Doberman because of their reputation as biters and attack dogs. Please look into all of these possibilities, as the purchase of a Doberman puppy brings with it many responsibilities.

Doberroo
02-06-2007, 12:24 PM
Some great info Doberman's. :D