View Full Version : The fonts, the fonts!
skunkstripe
08-18-2006, 10:12 AM
I really hate to be a grinch, because I see how some members are having such a good time choosing fancy fonts for their posts, but sometimes I have a hard time reading them! Ok my eyes were never that good, but some of the fonts have really thick letters and the words look like blobs. I do not want to take away anyone's fun, but maybe if the admin could keep those of us in mind who don't have huge monitors and who are stuck with a high resolution anyway (to be able to display msot of the web pages that are out there) and ditch some of the wackier fonts?
kelsiebug
08-19-2006, 05:02 PM
Yes, i see what your takin bout. i try to get my fonts big, thin, and blue, but it never works. most people have a hard time reading little fonts and even the fonts we are using now...
i try to make them bigger and bolder....srry...=)
Jake2006
08-19-2006, 05:17 PM
Hi Skunkstripe – what is your preffered font? When I work with visually impaired clients I use Tahoma at least font 14 – but you just name the font.
Also we are advised to have a pale pink background as this avoids too much whitespace which makes concentration difficult. You name it and I’ll post in that font in future.
Jake2006
08-19-2006, 05:19 PM
Hi Skunkstripe – what is your preffered font? When I work with visually impaired clients I use Tahoma at least font 14 – but you just name the font.
Also we are advised to have a pale pink background as this avoids too much whitespace which makes concentration difficult. You name it and I’ll post in that font in future.
(sorry I posted twice, I thought the font had changed to tahoma but it hadn't - I'm technology challenged - lol
skunkstripe
08-19-2006, 05:46 PM
Gee that is very nice of you. Jake I can almost read that second post without my glasses!!
Lemme see, I'll try some right here and find out how they look:
Arial
Arial Black
Arial narrow
Book Antiqua
Century Gothic
Comic Cans MS
Courier New
Fixedsys
Franklin Gothic Medium
Garamond
Georgia
Impact
Lucida Console
Lucida Sans Unicode
Microsoft Sans Serif
Palatino Linotype
System
Tahoma
Times New Roman
Trebuchet MS
Verdana
And here is everything all over again in bold:
Arial
Arial Black
Arial narrow
Book Antiqua
Century Gothic
Comic Cans MS
Courier New
Fixedsys
Franklin Gothic Medium
Garamond
Georgia
Impact
Lucida Console
Lucida Sans Unicode
Microsoft Sans Serif
Palatino Linotype
System
Tahoma
Times New Roman
Trebuchet MS
Verdana
now all in italics
Arial
Arial Black
Arial narrow
Book Antiqua
Century Gothic
Comic Cans MS
Courier New
Fixedsys
Franklin Gothic Medium
Garamond
Georgia
Impact
Lucida Console
Lucida Sans Unicode
Microsoft Sans Serif
Palatino Linotype
System
Tahoma
Times New Roman
Trebuchet MS
Verdana
and finally bold AND italic
Arial
Arial Black
Arial narrow
Book Antiqua
Century Gothic
Comic Cans MS
Courier New
Fixedsys
Franklin Gothic Medium
Garamond
Georgia
Impact
Lucida Console
Lucida Sans Unicode
Microsoft Sans Serif
Palatino Linotype
System
Tahoma
Times New Roman
Trebuchet MS
Verdana
I am just going to post this and then sit back and look at it so i can comment.
skunkstripe
08-19-2006, 05:50 PM
OK now that I can see it, I can tell that I have a hard time reading the Arial Black and the Impact especially if they are bolded. The Gramond is unreadable (to me) at this font size. Like I said, ireally do not want to spoil anyone's fun-I think it is just if somebody uses one of those fonts with the fat letters and then maybe they are bolding it my eyes hurt trying to read it.
Jake2006
08-19-2006, 06:29 PM
You know, I don't think anyone in here would mind at all using a different font at a bigger size. I guess its just making them aware. Its not good if you are not fully included in everything and by just making a small adjustment with the font will give you equal participation. I know its an Admin issue so maybe you could ask Doberman if its possible to put a general request up.
Jake2006
08-19-2006, 06:30 PM
You know, I don't think anyone in here would mind at all using a different font at a bigger size. I guess its just making them aware. Its not good if you are not fully included in everything and by just making a small adjustment with the font will give you equal participation. I know its an Admin issue so maybe you could ask Doberman if its possible to put a general request up.
In the meantime I'll use a larger, clearer font.
Hope this will help
Taeric
08-19-2006, 08:35 PM
How about we just stick to the default - size 2 black Verdana for the majority of posts with variations of size/color/font for emphasis sparingly. Would that be amenable both to those who have a bit harder of a time reading posts as well as those who like to spice things up on occasion? If we need to fiddle with things, let's work out a good solution now. :)
I know those bigger fonts really bug my eyes out, especially on my laptop (1024x768 resolution max :eek: ).
Jake2006
08-20-2006, 06:28 AM
Unless anyone objects I'll stick with this font so that anyone can read it. Is that OK? That way it makes it accessible to everyone -
skunkstripe
08-20-2006, 10:50 AM
Jake that looks fine to me. I did not mean to make a big deal out of it, the default font is ok too. It is just when posts use the facny fonts, maybe bold and some funky color that I have to strain my eyes. I have never had great eyesight and it has not gotten better with age. :cool:
Arsenik
08-20-2006, 11:28 AM
Regarding the font size: I would suggest that users continue to post with normal font size and that users that can not read the posts because the font is too small edit their browser text size option. That way each user uses the size they like when viewing this site or any other site.
With FireFox you go to View - Text Size - Select Increase (ctrl++) or Decrease (ctrl+-).
With Internet Explorer if CSS (like in this site) is used you might not be able to resize the text on some parts or all... I suggest you use FireFox (http://www.GetFirefox.com)
skunkstripe
08-20-2006, 11:35 AM
Arsenik just for the record I am not saying that I am having any problems with the default font. It is when people try to make their post look like they wrote it using a fat purple magic marker and try to make it look like handwriting that it gets tricky. So changing the fiont size options will not help, it will still look like handwriting with a fat magic marker.
Jake2006
08-20-2006, 12:58 PM
Here you are Skunk, this is for you - and anyone else who'd like it
316http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m7/Jake2006_02/MarksVisit233.jpg
Taeric
08-20-2006, 02:11 PM
Arsenik just for the record I am not saying that I am having any problems with the default font. It is when people try to make their post look like they wrote it using a fat purple magic marker and try to make it look like handwriting that it gets tricky. So changing the fiont size options will not help, it will still look like handwriting with a fat magic marker.We're in the final stages of working on the rules for the site, and I'm seriously thinking about including a rule to stick with the default font settings except for occasional use of the other tools for emphasis. I don't want to take the fun out of the site, but the main point is to convey information, which is difficult when posts are in unreadable fonts/sizes/colors. I have pretty decent vision, and some of the combinations I've seen are just plain hideous.
Arsenik
08-20-2006, 07:22 PM
Arsenik just for the record I am not saying that I am having any problems with the default font. It is when people try to make their post look like they wrote it using a fat purple magic marker and try to make it look like handwriting that it gets tricky. So changing the fiont size options will not help, it will still look like handwriting with a fat magic marker.No worries skunkstripe i understood your suggestion :) , i was just making a suggestion regarding the font sizes since some had started talking about it.
We're in the final stages of working on the rules for the site, and I'm seriously thinking about including a rule to stick with the default font settings except for occasional use of the other tools for emphasis. I don't want to take the fun out of the site, but the main point is to convey information, which is difficult when posts are in unreadable fonts/sizes/colors. I have pretty decent vision, and some of the combinations I've seen are just plain hideous.We can currently limit the choice of font and sizes if it is needed. That way ppl will be limited to the list of font and sizes we make available. This would make moderating easier... (limited choice of font and sizes to select from when posting) :cheers:
Taeric
08-20-2006, 11:35 PM
We can currently limit the choice of font and sizes if it is needed. That way ppl will be limited to the list of font and sizes we make available. This would make moderating easier... (limited choice of font and sizes to select from when posting) :cheers:I'd rather make a "soft" limitation through the rules; hopefully everyone will respect that once it's posted and make moderating a non-issue. If not, we can always remove the worst of the options. Hopefully it won't come to that because a bit of variability from time to time can definitely be a good thing. :)
ruffian
08-21-2006, 07:25 AM
it isnt just the fonts the people that post in some of the light colors must not really want help, like the pink or this or this
just my opinion
kelsiebug
08-23-2006, 08:48 PM
I like to make the size a 1 and write in arial, that okay?
I guess I can write normailly
Taeric
08-24-2006, 11:14 PM
Please stick with size 2. Arial is a good font, but size 1 can get awfully small.
retriever crazy
08-31-2006, 06:13 PM
How about we just stick to the default - size 2 black Verdana for the majority of posts with variations of size/color/font for emphasis sparingly. Would that be amenable both to those who have a bit harder of a time reading posts as well as those who like to spice things up on occasion? If we need to fiddle with things, let's work out a good solution now. :)
I know those bigger fonts really bug my eyes out, especially on my laptop (1024x768 resolution max :eek: ).
i agree with taeric.. it realy hurts my eyes the big size