Beagle barking

[Bailey]

Hi. I have 2 beagles Bailley and Bandit. they are 7 months old. I dont know if this is the right forum but here it goes. But Bailey barks all night. sometimes he starts at 1:00 in teh morning and sometimes he starts at 6:00. I want to know if theres a way tohelp so he wont bark and make the neighbors madder.
Thanks:)

[kelsiebug]

my dog has the same problems. what i do is tie her up and tell her hush. if she dont then i punish her. dont know if this'll work 4 you but it work 4 me.i need advice too. she does be quiet if im lucky, but shes usually obidient towards that command a small bit.

[Bailey]

well right now we're using the squirt bottle treatment. im not too sure how its working because Bailey is over at my dads house (im only 14). ive heard that the squirt bottle only worked for a little while but i wasnt sure if it was true or not.

[kelsiebug]

well my family use to raise shepherds(im 13) and we had to use a squirt bottle on one of the dogs named sadie and it worked since she hated water so much.does bailey hate water?

[kelsiebug]

does bailey run?

[zoe08]

Didnt you post this on another forum?

If the dog is staying outside in a pen, that is most likely why. Other dogs bark during the night, your dog will bark right along with them.

[Bailey]

what do you mean does he run? you mean take him out huntin?

[Bailey]

Didnt you post this on another forum?

If the dog is staying outside in a pen, that is most likely why. Other dogs bark during the night, your dog will bark right along with them.
yes i did post this on another forum. the only thing i dont understand is that the other dog doesnt bark.

[kelsiebug]

Didnt you post this on another forum?

If the dog is staying outside in a pen, that is most likely why. Other dogs bark during the night, your dog will bark right along with them.
what do you mean that is most likely why? and to bailey yes i mean run as in huntin.

[zoe08]

May I ask why you have 2 anyways? How much attention do they get? Do they get worked with on training everyday?

Are you sure the other dog isnt barking? If it isnt, what is it doing?

[Bailey]

May I ask why you have 2 anyways? How much attention do they get? Do they get worked with on training everyday?

Are you sure the other dog isnt barking? If it isnt, what is it doing?
well i have 2 because a few months ago we thought Bailey was going to die because he has a heart murmur. but he swallowed some anti freeze. we were winterizing the boats and some got on the ground and he licked it. so we took him to the vet and she said that he prolly was going to die soon. so after taht we went and got his brother but then about 3 days later he started coming around. so thats why we have 2 of ghem. they get attention every day. and they DONT get training everyday. i work with them on the weekends and wednesdays. everyone atmy dads house is too busy to take them out and train them.

[Bailey]

oh. adn i know the other one doesnt bark because hes always in the box sleeping when i go out.

[zoe08]

Well I have to say I dont think that it is a good time to have the dogs. How can they get attention everyday but not training? Training is attention and it gives the dogs something to do. How well are they trained? Are they socialized? What size of pen do they live in? Do they go for walks everyday? What kind of exercise and activity do they get everyday. Beagles need lots.

[kelsiebug]

you ask alot but i agree all the way

[zoe08]

you ask alot but i agree all the way


You cant really answer without knowing all these kinds of things. There are so many factors to having a dog. A lot of people dont realize that before having one, which is why soo many animals end up in shelters.

[kelsiebug]

i agree...... my cuz gets a dog knowing that it is goin to poop inside(and you have to train them!)and stuff and they fuss at her! now they have a bassett hound and they just got it and it pooped in the floor and theyre lookin 4 a home, in 4 more days bye bye to that poor dog, its goin to the shelter! they get on my nerves really bad!

[Bailey]

Well I have to say I dont think that it is a good time to have the dogs. How can they get attention everyday but not training? Training is attention and it gives the dogs something to do. How well are they trained? Are they socialized? What size of pen do they live in? Do they go for walks everyday? What kind of exercise and activity do they get everyday. Beagles need lots.
well. my little brother plays with them everyday but he doesnt take them out. i train Bandit for 6 hours every Friday Saturday and Sunday. and they are trained ok. i dont want to hunt with Bailey because he has taht murmur so i dont want to push him too hard. the pen is 15 ft long with a box for them to sleep in. the box has 5" of insulation in it for the winter and it has a light bulb in it. the box never gets below 55 in teh winter. and they get exercise from running around the yard when im not there. when im tehre we go in the woods for HOURS.

[kelsiebug]

i think you train 4 too long! you have to have a break the longest i train my dog is 30 minutes and kalee and sum others told me that was too long!

[Bailey]

no no. not 6hrs each. thats 6hrs all together. and ya. there are breaks in there too.

[kelsiebug]

i didnt say 6 hors a day. in one week i put in about 3-5 hours with my dog

[Bailey]

i said i train my dogs for 6hrs a day. which i meant 3 hrs each. with some breaks. i didnt say anything about your dogs.

[kelsiebug]

okay you dont have to get smart. its making me confused cause you say 6 hours 4 the 3 days and- im confused

[Bailey]

okay you dont have to get smart. its making me confused cause you say 6 hours 4 the 3 days and- im confused
i wasnt getting smart. i was jsut sayin i didnt say anything about your dog.

[kelsiebug]

okay srry. it just made it look like it that you were gettin smart. what do you mean 6 hrs. 3 hrs. im confused can you fill me in?

[Bailey]

sure. i take Bailey out for 3 hrs Friday Saturday and Sunday. but we stop and take breaks so its only really like 1.5 -2 hrs. then i take Banidit out for the same amount of time.

[kelsiebug]

okay. i think i understand a bit now but at first it was like you were sayin sumpin all diffrent. what do are you working on now?

[Bailey]

well right now im workin with bandit on huntin rabbits. and Bailey well i dont really train him. i mean ive taught hi to sit and shake. but i take him out and paly with him and take him in the woods.

[kelsiebug]

stay and come and some other things are important to train your dog. recall.....your dog needs that. do they come when you call them? do they run off alot or anything like that? well if so on the running off thing train them to recall. my dog has the problem of running off and ive been workin on come here for almost 5-6 weeks and shes gettin better by the day!

[Bailey]

if you have them out one at a time theyll come as soon as you say their name. but if you have them out together then they dont listen at all.

[kelsiebug]

thats why you need to teach them recall.

[Bailey]

well, i want to get rid of bandit because its getting hard to handle both of them. i CANT get rid of Bailey. theres somethin about him that i cant do it. i dont know if its beacsue weve been through a lot togetehr or what.

[kelsiebug]

thats like me and my dog lady. i found her as a 7 week old pup and i fell in luv with her.it was to hard to give her up. now i have her and shes 1 yr and 5 mnths. ive been through tough times that my dog comforted me alot! after i was almost killed i was allowed to have anything so i said puppy but no! they didnt let me! after i found lady i knew she was a keeper!

[kelsiebug]

hey whats your name?
mine is kelsie if ive not alresdy said

[Bailey]

ive had bailey since he was 8 weeks old. i remeber the day i brought Bailey home. he was soo little and cute. now hes 7 montsh old. he was born July 17th. me and him go EVERYWHERE together. up till he was about 5 months old he wouldnt leave my side. if i was going around water id tell someone to hold him so he didnt jump in. hed start cryin and barkin untill i came back. but Bandit he dont even look at you.

[Bailey]

hey whats your name?
mine is kelsie if ive not alresdy said
my name is Matt

[kelsiebug]

well ttyl matt!

[Bailey]

cya kelsie

[zoe08]

well, i want to get rid of bandit because its getting hard to handle both of them. i CANT get rid of Bailey. theres somethin about him that i cant do it. i dont know if its beacsue weve been through a lot togetehr or what.

I am sorry from what it sounds like they both need new good homes. You dont just get a dog and then just say well I want to get rid of it.

And I mean training. Not time playing. They need to know sit, lay, stay, come, leave it, drop it, and much more stuff. And training should be worked with everyday. Training should be about 15 minutes twice a day or something. Play time much more often than that. Training to hunt rabbits? Why? Are you trying to make him kill the rabbits or are you out there with a gun?

[Cheetah]

So this dog is in a pen outside? How many hours per day is it locked in the pen? Does it get any stimulation in there? How long have you had the second dog?

In my experience, many times if a dog is locked outside in a pen day and night without anything to do in there, it develops problems like this. When I was younger, my dad's stupid girlfriend decided to pen my border collie up during the day without anything to do while I was at school (without my approval... god I hated her). Guess what she did? That's right. She developed a chronic barking problem. >-.-<

And punishing a dog for this doesn't do any good. It just scares and frustrates them, and they bark some more.

[kelsiebug]

hey i was wondering if you have been working with the dogs?

[Taeric]

Beagles were bred as hunting dogs, particularly rabbit hunting dogs. I believe they sniff out the rabbits and drive them to a place where hunters can pick them off, though someone who hunts rabbits could probably give a more thorough description of how it all works. Beagles that are trained hunters are often treated a bit differently than beagles (and other breeds) that are kept as pets. Their crating and training is pretty specific to type of hunting they do.

Anyway, Bailey didn't take very kindly to the suggestion that he was mistreating his dogs, which is something I can fully understand. Please try to remember that dogs are trained for different purposes and that not every dog is a beloved household pet. That's not to say that these dogs are mistreated or unloved; they're just trained and handled differently (any even hint of abuse will be dealt with severely on this site for the record; we in no way, shape, or form condone ill treatment of any kind).

Bailey's reponses to the above posts were scathing and did not conform the family friendly standards of this site. Hopefully he'll be joining us again in a few days. Before suggesting that someone needs to get rid of their dog(s), please try to understand the type of training the dogs are receiving. In the vast majority of cases on here, people are training their dogs to be well behaved pets. There will be cases, however, such as this where dogs are being used for hunting or for other purposes which require a different type of training and handling.

[zoe08]

A 14 year old is training his dog to hunt rabbits? Is there an adult present? Im sorry I think that is the job of an adult. And it is something to be taken seriously.

[Taeric]

Yes, training of any kind is something to be taken seriously, but it's not at all uncommon for early teens to hunt and to have hunting dogs. I'm not supporting or defending the specific training going on here (not enough info) but rather just pointing out that there are different training methods for different reasons. I absolutely think that there are wrong ways to do thing, but not everything that is different falls into that category.

[p0g03]

Ok I am finally going to jump in here. First of all yes "Bailey" aka Matt is only 14 and in his original posts he states quite plainly that the dogs are at his fathers which he only goes to on the weekends.
Taeric is very correct in her statement that in rural and agricultural areas of the US dogs are trained for hunting lots of diff. animals and used for other means as well, examples are ,,, keeping vermin out of the fields, deer out of the crops, dogs also deter snakes, and in our neck of the woods the hunting of feral hogs that have lately the past few years been able to wipe out a farmers entire crop for the year. These dogs are not pets they are working dogs and need to remain that way for the jobs they are required to do on a daily basis.
He may only be 14 but I know at the age of 10 I was a crack shot with a squirrel gun and had been driving the farm trucks and tractors for at least 2 years previous. Shoot I still get up without an alarm at 3:30am every morning
just like back then because the animals had to be taken care of before school.
Amy

[zoe08]

and they DONT get training everyday. i work with them on the weekends and wednesdays. everyone atmy dads house is too busy to take them out and train them.

this to me doesn't make it seem like the dogs are for his father to go hunting? If his father was going to, shouldnt he be the one training them. Or at least supervising. Now a 14 year old can shoot a gun and go hunting, fine. I hit my target the first time I ever shot a rifle @ 16 and havent missed much of anything w/ rifles since. But when I was 16 I did not shoot or have a gun unless there was an adult who knew a lot about guns.

A 14 year old should not be hunting w/o an adults supervision. A 14 year old should not be in the presence of a gun w/o an adult present.

This is why I ask is he wanting the dogs to kill the rabbits, to find the rabbits? What? Also, I would like to know what he plans to do with the dead rabbits? I dont finding hunting just for the sake of killing something kool. You use what you kill. Sorry that's my opinion. If he is doing this properly then why wont he come back and answer my questions?

[p0g03]

I am sorry I was not clear the last post I made.

You are jumping all over a 14 year old for something his parent is doing.

Rabbits on farms are considered vermin they can wipe out an entire crop that supports a family for a entire year if not kept at bay.

You obviously know nothing about farming which I am sure will surprise you takes up more than 75% of the states.

As for you shooting guns with always having supervision ... good for you..BUT
farm kids and rural kids are not given the parental supervision you had. Some are armed to keep them safe IE bears when they come out of hybrenation are always roaming around here, foxes that are known in our area to carry rabies.
Packs of dog that have been running wild for generations. These are just a few of the reasons that people on farms carry firearms.

You should still not be jumping on a 14 yr old that came here for advise on how to train his dog when it was very clear he was not in total control of the entire situation.

When it comes to the younger members on this OPEN forum we should try and help them when possible but NOT chastise them for the way they are being brought up or what their parents responsiblities are to them according to our beliefs.
Amy

[zoe08]

Well here is the thread he posted on somewhere else. I dont approve of people wanting to kill dogs just cuz they bark....it comes along with getting a beagle. Thats why I think people should do research before getting a breed. When you get a breed you should be prepared for the possible bad things that come along with that breed. And not want to kill it because it happens to have them.

[p0g03]

well, im only 14 and the dog is at my dads house and my dad is about to kill him. so the only time i get to see him is on the weekends. oh, he is outside in a dog box.

The above quote is from what you offered from the link where this young person is looking for help. It is fairly obvious that his parent looks at this dog as a pain in the rear this is not something unusual in rural areas and is a fact of life. He is asking for our help so that he can keep the dog and it does nothing to make comments with regards to how his parents choose to deal with the situation but it may help if someone has advise on how to remedy it without challenging his parents on how they choose to deal with the situation.

[zoe08]

This is why I ask who the dog was bought "for" Why get a dog if you cannot take care of it, and it doesnt seem like his dad wants to? I am sorry I believe parents should be responsible. Good breeders dont sell to 14 year olds, they sell to the parents who when they buy the dog agree to take care of it. If he cannot be there to work with it and work on training everyday, then the parent should take over the responsibility.

And like I said. No one can get a beagle and say "oh I didnt know they liked to bark" Everytime I hear someone talk about beagles or they ask me about mine almost the first thing they say is does she bark a lot? And he should learn on here and be able to educate his parents about the best thing to do for the dog.

[Taeric]

Please let's try to focus our efforts on helping Bailey (the member) help out Bailey (the dog) as well as we can. He is obviously handicapped by the fact that the dog is his father's and that they don't live together. We have the opportunity to help him be as productive as possible in the limited time he does have access to the dog, so any advice that we can provide that will help to improve the dog's life in the context of this situation would be very much appreciated.

[zoe08]

The only thing I can suggest is getting both dogs kongs and fill them with treats that are not too easy to get out. Give them to them at night and maybe it will keep them occupied. Other than that, Beagles bark, most likely cuz the neighbors dog is barking too even though you may not hear it. Also they bark if sirens go off usually, I mentioned that cuz my beagle is barking at a siren right now, along with all the other dogs in the neighborhood who think they are sirens too. And some of them are pretty good at, Zoe can sound just like one almost if she wants.

[p0g03]

xxxelent post zoe :) Now I think that this suggestion is exactly what "Bailey" was looking for and from another beagle lover too. Great advice!!
Amy

[Bailey]

i would like to THANK the ones that support me. i did get a little out of control but Zoe thinks she knows it all. they are MY dogs. my dad ISNT going to kill him. hes just mad cause they bark alot. he DOESNT abusethem in any way. get your facts strait. and NO they donnt get trained EVEYDAY but 4-5 days ot of the week. and once again THEYRE NOT ABUSED. and ya theres a firestation a mile away from my house so im sure theyre barking at that. but they do bark more than the neighbors dogs because now more neighbors are complaining. and by sayiing my dad was going to KILL them didnt litreally mean he was going to. i meant it int he way that he was mad at them

[kelsiebug]

okay bailey, i do believe that you shouldve said it in a lil more of a way we or sum of us wouldnt think you really meant kill the dogs.
have you been working with recall? are the dogs better at coming when called? i hope so. i am so glad theyre not abused although i didnt think that.well i hope you worked with the dogs.
kelsie

[Bailey]

ya ive been workin wiht them. i havent worked on recall though cause i still want to get rid of Bandit. but if it ends up that i dont im going to HAVE to work in it.

[kelsiebug]

why do you want to give bandit away? i would say not to, but there not my dogs, soooo, even if you do get rid of them then you can probably give him away easier if you train him. well i hope you began recall that is way important!:)

[kelsiebug]

why dont you go on chat so we wont have to keep checking to wat each other say?

[Bailey]

i know im not going to get a good reply from this but. im gettin rid of bandit becasue 2 dogs is gettin to be to much to handle. so i want to get rid of him instead of bailey.

[Bailey]

im on AIM rite now

[kelsiebug]

well not from me your not, id say no but anyway go to chat at the bottom kelsiebug is there!

[Cheetah]

I think it's fine that if you can't handle a dog, to find a home who can. If more people did that the world would be a better place for dogs. Try not to take him to the pound or shelter.... he won't have a good chance there. >-.-<

[Bailey]

the 2 pup i have now are the pups of the other 2 beagles i had before. we gave them back the who we got them off of so MAYBE he can take Bandit back. his brother LOVES beagles too so he might give him to his brother.

[zoe08]

I have a question, you said Bailey is the one barking, and Bandit doesnt. So if Bailey is the one causing problems in the neighborhood, why not find him a good home and keep Bandit?

[kelsiebug]

I have a question, you said Bailey is the one barking, and Bandit doesnt. So if Bailey is the one causing problems in the neighborhood, why not find him a good home and keep Bandit?
bailey said that bandit makes him bark....... how?i dunno.